YeshivaThe torah world Gateway Beit Midrash
Beit Midrash
- Sections
- Chemdat Yamim
- Bemare Habazak - Rabbis Questions
Answer: The most basic exemptions from the prohibition of bishul akum are when the cooked food is not fit for fancy settings and when the food was fit to be eaten before the cooking (Avoda Zara 38a). The general logic for both is likely, as you said, that the prohibition is only when the cooking reaches the bar in importance, thereby heightening the danger that the association between a Jew and non-Jew will go further than it should (see Tosafot ad loc.). While your understanding of the rationale of the halacha of ne’echal chai is correct, when looking for rulings on whether a food belongs to the prohibition or the exemption, that rationale is not nearly as important as the Talmudic parameters.
The gemara’s language is: "All that is [fit to be] eaten the way it is, raw" is not included in bishul akum. There is an opinion that edibility is measured by the practices of the one who wants to eat, but the accepted approach is that it follows a cross-section of people of one’s society (see Chelkat Binyamin 113:5). In any case, the poskim (see Ritva ad loc.; Shach, Yoreh Deah 113:19) agree that it does not have to be equally good or customary to eat the food raw; it just must be a viable option. Accordingly, even if the cooking is important, the prohibition of bishul akum may still not apply because the food could have been eaten beforehand.
The parameters are very different for berachot on such foods. For vegetables that are clearly preferred cooked or not cooked, respectively, the beracha for the preferred manner is Borei Pri Ha’adama and for the less preferred is Shehakol (Shulchan Aruch, Orach Chayim 205:1). This "favoritism" in berachot is even when either option is fully viable, just that the "demotion" comes when there is a "change for the worse" relative to the classic option (Rama ad loc.).
The comparison between bishul akum and berachot is apt not to a change of beracha but to the cancellation of a beracha. The Shulchan Aruch (OC 202:2) says that regarding a food that generally receives a beracha, if an individual piece of that food is "unfit to eat even al y’dei hadechak (if there is a need to eat it)," then there is no beracha. If such a food could be remedied by cooking and a non-Jew did so, it would indeed be forbidden as bishul akum.
Bemare Habazak - Rabbis Questions (657)
Rabbi Daniel Mann
605 - Ask the Rabbi: “Cooked” and Sweetened Wine for Kiddush
606 - Ask the Rabbi: Bishul Akum on Food that Is Improved by Cooking
607 - Ask the Rabbi: Beracha upon Returning Tzitzit
Load More
Regarding bishul akum, poskim deal with apparent contradictions on borderline edibility. The gemara (ibid.) says that if a Jew cooked food until ma’achal ben drusa’i, then further cooking by a non-Jew does not forbid it. This is difficult for the stringent opinion above because after the first stage, it is edible only al y’dei hadechak. The Bach (YD 113) answers that bishul akum applies even to marginally edible food, but if it was brought to that point in a permitted manner, the prohibition does not apply. There is also an apparent contradiction in the Shulchan Aruch, as despite the two opinions above, he outright forbids eggs and bitter dates cooked by a non-Jew (YD 113:14, 15), even though they could be eaten beforehand al y’dei hadechak! The Taz (ad loc. 14) distinguishes between levels of dechak.
Lessons
fast navigation

Shoftim TESHUVA IN COURT OF LAW?
Parshat Shoftim-Chodesh Elul
Why does parshat Shoftim always come out during Elul? This innovative and central explanation is an eye-opener regarding many aspects of Judaism.

The Month of Elul TESHUVA IS THE ANSWER
The month of Elul serves as a vital time for self-reflection and personal accountability to prepare for true repentance.

P'ninat Mishpat P'ninat Mishpat: Realtor’s Fee on Large Commercial Building – part I
(based on ruling 85031 of the Eretz Hemdah-Gazit Rabbinical Courts)
(based on ruling 85031 of the Eretz Hemdah-Gazit Rabbinical Courts)

P'ninat Mishpat Complaints about Contractor’s Work – part II
(based on ruling 83037.1 of the Eretz Hemdah-Gazit Rabbinical Courts)
(based on ruling 83037.1 of the Eretz Hemdah-Gazit Rabbinical Courts)

Chemdat Yamim Moreshet Shaul: The Goal of an Agricultural Yeshiva – part I
Based on Siach Shaul, Pirkei Machshava V’Hadracha p. 263 (address at the laying of the cornerstone of the Yeshiva Chakla’it in Kfar Haroeh)
Based on Siach Shaul, Pirkei Machshava V’Hadracha p. 263 (address at the laying of the cornerstone of the Yeshiva Chakla’it in Kfar Haroeh)

Chemdat Yamim The Goal of an Agricultural Yeshiva – part II
Based on Siach Shaul, Pirkei Machshava V’Hadracha p. 263 (address at the cornerstone laying for the Yeshiva Chakla’it in Kfar Haroeh – 1938)
Based on Siach Shaul, Pirkei Machshava V’Hadracha p. 263 (address at the cornerstone laying for the Yeshiva Chakla’it in Kfar Haroeh – 1938)

Re'e NEVER EXTREME EXCEPT ISRAEL
Parshat Re'eh
Judaism is against extremism, so how can we understand the seemingly extreme statements found in our sages in favor of living in the Land of Israel and against living in Chutz laAretz? The article deals with the seeming contradiction between the strength of Free-Will and the strength of being influenced by our surroundings.

Ekev DANCE FOR ISRAEL- FOR YOUR BENEFIT
Parshat Eikev
Description: The 7 Haftarot we read after Tisha B'Av ("Shiva D'Nichemta") surely get us excited that they're coming TRUE, and awaken us to yearn, dance & join the return to Zion! The short article also deals with the problems and solutions facing the American Jewish community as discussed at a recent panel, as well as the question why Jews come from America to Israel to help when we face problems, but Israelis don't come to aid Jews in America when they face anti-Semitism.











