YeshivaThe torah world Gateway Beit Midrash
Beit Midrash
- Sections
- Chemdat Yamim
- P'ninat Mishpat
Ruling:Def’s claim that they did not think they were expected to pay is not a credible claim. Everyone knows or should know that when one calls the office of a professional agent and asks for and receives his help, he is expected to pay. There is no question that if they would have been asked to sign, they would have. Pl’s claim that he forgot to have them sign is much more plausible. It is possible that def thought that since pl failed to have them sign they could not be forced to pay, but not that they thought that pl did not expect to be paid.
The question is whether pl is entitled to payment when the law is that they are entitled only if the client signed. Def referred to an article in Techumin 31, in which our Av Beit Din, Rav Yosef Carmel, gave the halachic basis for accepting the law of the land, including that of the law in question. However, a major source for that thesis is the Chatam Sofer (V, Choshen Mishpat 44) who says that laws that the Rabbis would institute if they had the authority are binding.
In the case of the law requiring the client to sign, one must distinguish between cases. Rav Carmel’s p’sak refers to a case where the agent who suggested an apartment was a neighbor of the buyer, and he never indicated that he was giving the information as an agent. In that case, the law is logical, as it prevents disputes arising from one who is not clearly acting as an agent, from retroactively demanding pay from an unsuspecting "client." However, in our case, def sought out pl specifically because they knew he is a professional agent and so used him. In such a case, there is no logic to withhold a professional’s pay because he, for whatever reason, neglected to have the party sign.
Regarding the amount of the payment, while paying a month’s rent is a normal fee, it was never agreed upon. When an agent raises explicitly his fees in advance, there are often negotiations on them. It is not right for pl to not raise the issue of the fee and then decide on his own on the amount. Therefore, we will reduce 20% from the demanded fee and have def pay pl 4,000 shekels plus V.A.T.
P'ninat Mishpat (832)
Various Rabbis
265 - “Balancing Payments”
266 - An Agent Who Did Not Make a Client Sign a Contract
267 - Rent on Interim Period
Load More
Various Rabbis
Various Rabbis including those of of Yeshivat Bet El, such as Rabbi Chaim Katz, Rabbi Binyamin Bamberger and Rabbi Yitzchak Greenblat and others.

Moreshet Shaul Moreshet Shaul: A Crown and its Scepter – part II
Based on Siach Shaul, Pirkei Machshava V’Hadracha p. 294-5

P'ninat Mishpat P'ninat Mishpat: A Contractor’s Leaving the Job in the Middle – part III
based on ruling 84013 of the Eretz Hemdah-Gazit Rabbinical Courts

P'ninat Mishpat P'ninat Mishpat: Tuition Payment after Withdrawing Student
based on ruling 85142 of the Eretz Hemdah-Gazit Rabbinical Courts

P'ninat Mishpat P'ninat Mishpat: Multiple Agreements and Parties – part II
based on ruling 80082 of the Eretz Hemdah-Gazit Rabbinical Courts

P'ninat Mishpat P'ninat Mishpat: A Contractor’s Leaving the Job in the Middle – part II
based on ruling 84013 of the Eretz Hemdah-Gazit Rabbinical Courts
Lessons
fast navigation

Shoftim TESHUVA IN COURT OF LAW?
Parshat Shoftim-Chodesh Elul
Why does parshat Shoftim always come out during Elul? This innovative and central explanation is an eye-opener regarding many aspects of Judaism.

The Month of Elul TESHUVA IS THE ANSWER
The month of Elul serves as a vital time for self-reflection and personal accountability to prepare for true repentance.

P'ninat Mishpat P'ninat Mishpat: Realtor’s Fee on Large Commercial Building – part I
(based on ruling 85031 of the Eretz Hemdah-Gazit Rabbinical Courts)
(based on ruling 85031 of the Eretz Hemdah-Gazit Rabbinical Courts)

P'ninat Mishpat Complaints about Contractor’s Work – part II
(based on ruling 83037.1 of the Eretz Hemdah-Gazit Rabbinical Courts)
(based on ruling 83037.1 of the Eretz Hemdah-Gazit Rabbinical Courts)

Chemdat Yamim Moreshet Shaul: The Goal of an Agricultural Yeshiva – part I
Based on Siach Shaul, Pirkei Machshava V’Hadracha p. 263 (address at the laying of the cornerstone of the Yeshiva Chakla’it in Kfar Haroeh)
Based on Siach Shaul, Pirkei Machshava V’Hadracha p. 263 (address at the laying of the cornerstone of the Yeshiva Chakla’it in Kfar Haroeh)

Chemdat Yamim The Goal of an Agricultural Yeshiva – part II
Based on Siach Shaul, Pirkei Machshava V’Hadracha p. 263 (address at the cornerstone laying for the Yeshiva Chakla’it in Kfar Haroeh – 1938)
Based on Siach Shaul, Pirkei Machshava V’Hadracha p. 263 (address at the cornerstone laying for the Yeshiva Chakla’it in Kfar Haroeh – 1938)

Re'e NEVER EXTREME EXCEPT ISRAEL
Parshat Re'eh
Judaism is against extremism, so how can we understand the seemingly extreme statements found in our sages in favor of living in the Land of Israel and against living in Chutz laAretz? The article deals with the seeming contradiction between the strength of Free-Will and the strength of being influenced by our surroundings.

Ekev DANCE FOR ISRAEL- FOR YOUR BENEFIT
Parshat Eikev
Description: The 7 Haftarot we read after Tisha B'Av ("Shiva D'Nichemta") surely get us excited that they're coming TRUE, and awaken us to yearn, dance & join the return to Zion! The short article also deals with the problems and solutions facing the American Jewish community as discussed at a recent panel, as well as the question why Jews come from America to Israel to help when we face problems, but Israelis don't come to aid Jews in America when they face anti-Semitism.











