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Selichot before Shachrit

Rabbi Elchanan LewisTammuz 21, 5769
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Question
Is one permitted to say the Selichot of a fast day before Shacharit? As the 17th of Tammus here in Australia is winter and Shacharit starts late in the morning so to save time, it would be great to say selichot before Shacharit.
Answer
The normal order is of course to say it after the Amida however in your case I can't see a problem to say Slichot before Tfilah
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